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  • mark6646
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    Mate it gets easier and easier as the time goes by, the first thing we need to do I believe is keep it in our heads for as long as possible. Avoiding it is the worst thing that I’ve done. By going to GA for about a month I’ve learned to always keep the demon of gambling in my head and remember the pain that it brings. Whilst I haven’t gone for about 2 weeks, I will return as I know when we get complacent and happy that its when the real issues begin. Best of luck to you on the journey mate, the first few days are the hardest but it gets easier and easier then you start to wonder why you even did it in the first place!

    mark6646
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    Hey guys,

    I really appreciate you all commenting on my thread even though it has landed on page 2 or 3.

    First of all what I want to say is that the pain does get better. We ALL feel pain and the pain from gambling is the worst pain of all. When you gamble and you’re day Day 1, Day 2, etc you feel like this feeling will never go away, you think the feeling is forever but it well and truly IS NOT.

    I have gone to GA at least 8 times so far and whilst I haven’t gone for the past 2 weeks due to the coronavirus scare I can say that GA works. The reason I’m not going is because I have a little baby and also spend time with elderly people around me so I don’t want to cause anyone any sickness. I’ve actually been working from home lately and I’ve been working on a new project which has been keeping my mind off gambling.

    I feel like we need to replace the negative with the positive, instead of sitting in a room waiting for the feelings of gambling to go away on their own. We really need to replace negative hobbies with positive ones an this has been working for me so far.

    I hope you’re all doing good and remember, don’t give up. It’s really hard at the start but we have to keep going to avoid this evil which is gambling.

    I’ll keep this page updated as much as I can but I wish everyone luck and don’t give up, the first few days are the hardest but it gets better as time goes by.

    in reply to: I lost everything and I’m lost #54351
    mark6646
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    We’re similar, I’ve spent 250k+ in the last 10 years and still have 40K debt. I’m barely clinging to paying rent, food, etc for the family every month and the debts I have my wife doesn’t even know about. I’m scared to lose them when or if they find out. Reason why I don’t tell them is because there’s nothing they can do to help me, I would just be passing my pain onto them when it’s mine to own. I’d rather they live happy because I know I can fix this if I just STOP GAMBLING.

    All of our problems can be fixed with time if we just stop gambling. It sounds easy to say and I know we’ve all had our stints then go back to it but what I can tell you is that you need GA my friend, you can’t do this on your own. You will just keep thinking about the debt, the life you could’ve had and watching people around you be happy and look like they have no problem in the world.

    GA will give you a fellowship of friends that are all going through the same thing and keep you away from gambling, you can share your thoughts and build new friends and pass through the challenge together.

    3 weeks ago when I first stopped, I wanted to neck myself and end it all. 3 weeks later I’m feeling positive again even though I’ve spent all this money and have all this debt. This is because happiness doesn’t come from money or gambling but how you feel in the present and how you value and respect yourself. If you keep going back to gambling you will never respect or love yourself again and when you can’t even do that with yourself its impossible to do it with your child or anyone.

    We often think about our children, loved ones or family etc after a loss of gambling. This is because the loss humbles us and we want to do better by everyone etc but the moment things get “good” again, we’ll gamble again. It’s an illness, a progressive one that doesn’t stop until it has swamped up everything in your life. However, it all starts with a decision that you control. I suggest picking up old good habits and working on improving your career. I firmly believe GA will help anyone in this crisis. I can’t think of any better support group as counsellors may not even be gamblers … they don’t get it but sitting with people that have been through it all is really good. I used to think GA would be junkies or meth heads but it’s actually very intelligent people who have a real serious problem with gambling. Trust me, things will get better if you just stop. All the money and stuff you’ve lost is gone, accept it. I’ve lost everything too but it’s sure as shit not going to keep me shackled for the rest of my life. We have one life and it’s time we start living it for the sake of ourselves and everyone around us. Good luck.

    mark6646
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    Hey all, I hope everyone is doing well in their gambling recovery journeys. I’ve just hit 20 days on my calendar, so almost 3 weeks GF.

    The past 3 weeks have been a rollercoaster of emotions, I had a lot bad thoughts about suicide and ending it all (Never close to actually doing it, but the thoughts were there nonetheless and they were very uncomfortable.)

    What’s been holding me together is thinking about my daughter, and envisioning what my life will look like in 2-3 years time. The conclusion that I’ve come to is that if I stop gambling I would be able to:

    1. See my daughter grow up in a healthy, happy home
    2. I would have cleared all the remaining debts that I have left from gambling which is around $40,000 left.
    3. I would be able to start thinking about going on holidays and enjoying nice dinners with my wife and family.

    These are just the 3 most obvious things that come to mind, with many more that are there. The possibilities are endless if we stop gambling, the world literally opens up to us again and all of our talents, skills and dreams that were suppressed by gambling open up once again. One thing that WILL never happen though is any of those things whilst we ARE gambling. It will always be filled with misery, debt, and thinking about how we’re going to pay the bills and the worst of all – losing our selves, our talents and what we’re good at. What makes us – us basically! I think this is a really sad thing to lose and have only came to the realisation of it today after being cleansed for nearly 3 weeks.

    What’s been working for me so far:

    1. I’ve made it my mission to make AT LEAST 1 GA meeting a week, I’m currently doing two (Tues and Sun) however this is something that I am going to maintain for LIFE. This illness has such a grip on us, that going once a week can help keep us away. And why not go? There are always people attending that need help and if you can share a story and help someone in need (Which is what saved me, amazing humans at my GA) then it’s all worth it.

    2. I’m back to the gym and running. I’ve done a marathon in the past so I’m no stranger to this, but these hobbies were swept under the rug while gambling. Try find something you’re good at or used to be good at, and try enjoy that once again. Be you again, all the things that were you before gambling need to come out and flourish again. They say it takes 21 days to break a habit or develop a new one, it’s better to focus on new habits I think as that overrides the negative ones.

    3. I’ve researching and planning to start an online business. Even though I’ve lost over 250k+ gambling, and I won’t be chasing those losses it doesn’t mean that I can’t make that money back through other means. This is by no means chasing, it’s me trying to get something going to support my family financially and possibly override the gambling mistakes I’ve done down the line. If hard work and persistence can pay off my mess, I would feel somewhat more at ease with how much time & money I’ve wasted. I would’ve felt like it’s a journey that lead me to where I am. Well that’s the vision anyway, I decided I want to have a goal and work on something instead of just living my life in limbo / regret working for a company that I’m no longer passionate about.

    I’m really excided to hit 21 days (tomorrow) and then a month in a week and a bit. My creativity is coming back and I’m starting to feel positive about life again. The thoughts and urges still come, but empowering myself through GA meetings, this forum and also working on something for myself I feel like I can overcome this and I honestly believe we all can if we want to. It all starts with a decision!!!!!! We make our own.

    mark6646
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    Thank you for your comment man, it helps heaps to know there are others in the same boat. 8 months is a great effort so far to be honest I haven’t gone that long since before I was gambling… The most I’ve ever done is 3 months before I was back at it again creating even more damage. Let’s kick this thing together and laugh about it in 5 years time!

    mark6646
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    Feeling the pain ever so much more of what I’ve caused financially for myself and my family. It will take 2 years+ of hard work to get through all these debts before we can even start saving up again for our future house. I’ll be 32 by then and still without a penny in my savings, all because of gambling. I’m hoping the days, weeks, months, years get easier as right now I’m feeling a bit depressed from the damage I’ve caused but this just re-affirms even more how DONE i am with gambling. Just hope things start to look brighter soon. Another GA meeting today (Going to 3 a week). Wishing everyone all the best. God bless.

    mark6646
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    Thank you for your comment, hopefully things are looking good for you as well.

    in reply to: Hands up if you’re starting again…again! #54169
    mark6646
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    I also had a period last year for 3 months where I didn’t gamble. In that period I learned to run, train properly and managed to lose 12kg and run a marathon after 3 months of training. Not only this but my debts were soaring off my list and my wife was even happier and getting into training as well and we were all happy. I guess what I’m trying to say is when you give positive energy around you, then everyone will follow and it’s the same with negative. This is one reason we should avoid hurting our loved ones as much as possible because they are part of the addiction too. We need to think like leaders of the pack and where we go…. the pack goes. So I am similar to you in the fact that I’ve stumbled in the past 4 weeks again and I’ve managed to gamble what we recovered from debt + more so we’re in an even worst spot. However my parents are now aware (Before it was only my wife) and I’ve finally started going to GA so I’m thinking very positive this time around and feel like I’ve got all the tools I need to quit. Aslong as we never gamble again, the debts actually don’t mean much. I’m happy and I’m sure you are too to pay off all our debts as long as we know we’re never going to gamble again. Let’s try make that our mission and keep everyone around us happy. Best of luck with your journey!

    in reply to: Trying to quit before damage is done #54151
    mark6646
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    You go girl!!! Keep at it, keep your husband in your head as well as these forums, and resarching quitting as well as any support groups. As long as it’s constantly in our head to NOT gamble we won’t and we’ll power through it, we just can’t get too complacent because that’s when the nightmare begins! Best of luck.

    in reply to: Mr #54262
    mark6646
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    Keep going strong brother, you’ve got this. We need to keep our wives in our head constantly as they’re our rocks through these things! Not many partners would choke on the gambling habits for as long as some. Just keep her in your head all the time and keep researching ways to stop gambling, posting on this forum and going to any support groups that you can. I feel like if I constantly have quitting in my head, that I won’t actually do it. It’s only when we are comfortable and havene’t thought of it for a few days we start saying to ourselves “Ahhh it’s okay this one small bet, we’ve been good and it’s just one bet” it never really is just one bet though.

    mark6646
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    Thanks for the comments all, the only reason I don’t go counselling is because I went to a psychiatrist for this before and it doesn’t feel like it works for me I think the group setting of GA and sitting through it with people that also have the same problem and working through it is perfect for me.

    Birthday was yesterday, thank you 🙂 Happy birthday to you as well for this Sunday.

    I’ve been going good lately, however I keep getting thoughts of “What could’ve been” with throwing away the last 10 years gambling. And that feeling when you finally stop however now stuck with gambling debt is haunting me a little bit. However I’ve found strength in the fact that I’m quitting for good and now that I’ve turned 30 it feels like a new chapter of my life, and I even told my self that all the debt is nothing aslong as I don’t gamble again, I’ve accepted the debt now but I think if I relapse into gambling it will make it hurt even more so I’m going to try my absolute best and keep going to the GA meetings. I couldn’t go yesterdays one (it’s Tues / Thurs and Sun) but that’s because my wife has come back from overseas so I’ve been a bit pre-occupied with settling her back in etc.

    I did also have a chat with her and told her what’s occurred in the past two weeks and have also told her that I’m now doing GA, etc and she’s on board with it. I think as long as we’re doing something to better ourselves and become more productive and get away from gambling then our loved ones will support us, but if we keep throwing that away and they go from angry to feeling sorry for us then that’s when it’s probably a few days away from them leaving. My mum is talking to me although haven’t spoken with my dad since they found out but I’m glad everything is out in the open and that I’ve finally accepted the problem and that I’m doing something about it.

    I have been having a lot of thoughts of going back just to try win some money back but the thoughts of my family and loves in my head are stronger at the moment, as well as me not wanting to let any of the crew down at GA, it feels like we’re all accountable for each other.

    One day at a time folks!

    mark6646
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    hey guys I’m on day #4 today. I went to a GA session yesterday and it was really eye-opening for me because I made a clear connection with my gambling for once. I used to blame the alcohol and whatnot but these thoughts that are in my head that want to take me to gamble are actually always there. It’s scary how much power it has over you and the fact that you don’t even realise it until you’ve finally had enough. I think the group that I’m at is really awesome and has heaps of down to earth people (Many are recovering already for a longer period of time). They’re doing the group 3 days a week (Next one is tomorrow) so I’m really looking forward to keep sticking with it.

    It has also made me realise that the secrets is what kills us the most, hiding what we’ve done from our loved ones. I feel a lot more power after my parents have found out about my gambling 3 days ago and it’s given me a lot more strength. My wife knows about my gambling, but not to the extend the debt has reached (She knows there’s debt) so I will break it down to her tomorrow as well and give her the opportunity to make her own decision on what she thinks. At this stage I just want to stop gambling to stop hurting the people around me and I think if I don’t tell the truth then I won’t be able to move forward properly with that at the back of my head.

    So my next steps are to continue going to these GA meetings 2-3 times a week and to tell my wife the truth that my parents already know as well as my friends so I stop being lent money. There’s a lot of power in having being exposed and I’m ready for recovery after 10 long painful years.

    in reply to: Trying to quit before damage is done #54147
    mark6646
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    You can do this, thanks for commenting on my post thought I’d share some love too! Setbacks can always happen. I remember for me last October (1st) I said to myself that’s it I’m done and started focusing on a new hobby (Running) and I got really good at it, that I actually did a marathon in early January. The few days after i wanted to “celebrate” and went out to gamble and drink and I actually won the grand jackpot at a pub for $9000. I was on top of the world, said to myself this was my reward and I’d never play again! Paid off a $5000 loan I had and still had money left over, gave some to my mum and my wife and said it was from “investments” and kept a little bit to myself. Bad mistake. I got into it STRAIGHT AWAY! and went the week after and blew what money I had, after that I started borrowing off friends until it totalled around $3000. Now I had to get a loan AGAIN to pay them back, which is what I did except that I used the whole loan instead of paying people back.

    Now $8000 and finally admitting I’ve got a problem when it was soooo EASY to come back to it and that’s when I opened up to my mum and told her everything as well as because I need a bail out. Now I have started doing GA and AA (As both are a problem for me). With my GA meeting being the first tonight, something has to change and we can’t keep doing the same things that have always backfired. I think we just have to keep trying and eventually we will get rid of this problem, but we can’t keep doing the same things as willpower sometimes isn’t enough. I think maybe you should try some GA or counselling services and just see if it helps, for me I feel like that weekly reminder of going and hearing others stories and maybe helping them that it will keep me away.

    in reply to: Mr #54255
    mark6646
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    Hey mate, I’m in the same boat as you married with one kid, mine is only 8 months.

    I’ve been in constant denial too, my last gamble was 3 days ago and I blew everything, borrowed money of people pulled out a loan and in the end was left with nothing. I’ve had to reach out to my mother for a loan which I’ve told her is the final straw from me just to close everything out and start living a normal life, I have to.

    Guess what I’m trying to say is that you can do it man, think about it properly you have a wife and a kid and they probably both love enjoying spending time with you, watching TV and doing family things. Me and you both don’t want to ruin that, what’s the point – just for gambling? It’s no way near worth it but this thing is a disease, all it takes is one little small thought and then you’ll go in saying oh just a 50 or whatever. Next thing you know you keep depositing and chasing. Even if we won, eventually we’ll get greedy put a bigger bet lose that, chase more and lose even more than we started with. It’s a vicious neverending cycle!

    For me what I think works best is to have constant reminders of how you screwed up. You might not feel like you need GA meetings but one thing it’ll do is remind you of how bad it is with peoples stories, and perhaps you can even help someone. Imagine going every week and getting that constant reminder of it! You will be much stronger with holding back, that’s for sure. Gotta start somewhere and we can’t keep doing the same things, because they haven’t been working. Saying we’re going to stop and all this crap is all just when we’re humble after our losses, the moment things get comfortable again we get thoughts and gamble again.

    Anyway I wish you the best of luck man, and yeah maybe give the GA a go

    mark6646
    Participant

    Thanks all, I really appreciate the comments and criticism.

    The last time I played was Saturday evening so I’m very fresh as well. I’ve been spending the weekend researching others stories and also going through where I can get help. I actually went to an al-anon session yesterday thinking it was AA and was totally in the wrong place! However they told me to stay anyway and see what it’s like, it was good to see the world through the lense of someone that’s been affected by certain problems. Gambling definitely is the do or die for me because that’s where all the damage is coming from that is affecting my family.

    I know alcohol starts it but gambling is where it ends, and it’s not like I drink with my wife and then want to gamble it’s only that I’ll do this if I’m at the pub, drinking with mates, etc. I’ve been to a psychiatrist before for this problem and it didn’t work for me. Afterwards I got into running a lot and fitness and that kept me away for 3 months. For me what works best is hearing others stories and hopefully being able to help others while working on myself so that’s one reason I want to give all three a go first, there’s no harm in it right? It keeps me away from the machines, or the drink, or whatever.

    Anyway what’s happened in the past few days is that I told my mum about the situation and to ask her for a loan, I could’ve lied to her and told her it’s for something else but I completely opened up to her, my dad wasn’t as forgiving of the situation and is not talking to me right now which is understandable. My mum has decided to help me and has also told me she doesn’t want me at her front door if I’m ever to do it again. I know I don’t want to make these same mistakes again so I’m getting a lot of strength from these words and that’s why I’ll keep following up with the GA, AA meetings. It’s taken me nearly losing everything to see that I’ve been going too far with the gambling. I’m sick of borrowing money and relying on people for help too. We have decent paying jobs too so I know if I just buckle up for a year I can knock out so much of the debts and be in a happier position in life.

    I’ve got a GA meeting tonight and I’ll go to a proper AA meeting tomorrow and I’ll give both a go, and see which one works best for me and if it’s both then so be it. We can definitely all do this if we continue supporting each other and continue reminding ourselves of the crap that gambling puts you through!!!

    I’ll keep you all updated. Thanks for listening.

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