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29 December 2019 at 9:50 am #53803Gamblingblows577Participant
Hi guys! I am 28 years old and am a problem gambler. I am just looking for advice from those with lots of clean time. I have gambled consistently for over 10years and it has caused a lot of distress in my life. I have lost over $35000 in the years that I have gambled I can’t imagine what I could have done with all of that money. The last time I made a bet was 4/12/19 so right now I am at 260 days gamble free which is BY FAR the longest I have ever gone. The second most was around 66 days which I relapsed really bad after. I just want to start the conversation off on a positive note and say that it is possible to live a somewhat normal life being a gambler, if you just learn to control/arrest your problem. I have had tons of urges since my last bet and have gotten very close many times to going to the casino/buying scratch offs. I was always a slot gambler, but also gambled some online, did scratch offs, and did some blackjack and poker. I regularly lost over $1000 a month in the last few years I was active, with the last 6 months being particularly terrible I lost over $5000 the last month I had gambled which really hurt. I didn’t always lose, but as we all know, we all lose in the long run, and I just never would give up. I never really had anyone pushing me to quit, and have always kind of felt alone in life but I knew that this gambling addiction was consuming me and I needed a major change. If I didn’t stop, I would never have anything in life, and in fact would always be drowning in the addiction. I have made a few positive changes since my last bet. I was in crippling debt, but have paid off 3/4 of it by now, and have found other hobbies.
I have definitely fixed my work record and excel much better than before, not to mention, I am never late anymore. I was fairly close to getting fired if I kept doing what I was doing. I was also about to lose my house. I have gone to GA (gamblers anonymous)multiple times, but stopped around 120 days due to working a ton of overtime at work, I am meaning to start going back in order to make sure that I don’t relapse, but have taken many precautions against being able to gamble again. I have banned myself from all the casinos in my area, the nearest one I can go to is a 4 hour drive away. I have gotten rid of all my credit/debit cards and went strictly to cash (this can be gambled away, however, but not as easily). I am going back to GA asap and know that I have been very lucky that I have not relapsed in this long. I am socially awkward in life, and have trouble talking to people, so I have had lots of issues with making friends and having any sort of dating life, which makes quitting gambling that much harder. Thankfully, I do have some family that I told of these problems and they have helped me sort of along the way, but this has been mostly due to my own due diligence. We can’t expect the world out of everyone else, they all have their own issues just like we do, but I try to make sure I am on the hook and admittedly brag to most people I know when I reach a gamble free milestone. I am very rarely asked how I am doing with the addiction, I could go out today and lose $10000 and no one would probably know for a year or more because I am so good at hiding it and have really good credit, so I could borrow it from the credit card companies and just wallow in my own misery. I apologize for the rambling, but needed to type something out today. I hope that someone gets this message and can write me a few comforting words and maybe give me some advice as well. I know I am not doing all the things I need to do in order to keep myself from a relapse, gambling for me was mainly chasing a high, but most of the time, I would be robbed of all my money and time. I never had any ambition to try and better myself while I was gambling, and still have issue finding great interest in anything, but I do feel that I am building my life back up from scratch and trying to get out there and talk to people. I feel some normal interest that I did not feel before while I was still gambling. I think I suffer from some degree of depression where I really don’t feel much of anything, especially positive things, but I do feel like some of that is changing for the better, slowly but surely. I am very appreciative if there is anyone out there taking the time to read all of this. I know that before I gambled, I actually had lots of positive and negative feelings and also was very financially stable. I also was, for a very brief time, confident in my life and happy with where I was. I am trying to get back to that point, but it is a very slow process, and I still have a lot to work on. Gambling is never a good thing to partake in. It always ends up the same way for a problem gambler, win or lose. We all lose if we continue to gamble, the only way to win is
to not gamble in the first place. It took me over 10 years of getting destroyed to finally realize how much of a waste it was. I have won as much as $4500 at once, and got 3 handpays in a 2 month period, so I know what it is like to win, but it just isn’t worth it, I have lost all that back and then some within a month after the wins because I just went insane trying to chase the same highs. I am proud of myself for making it this long gamble free but always need to make sure that I can keep this going for as long as possible, otherwise it can be for nothing in just one week of relapsing. I am still feeling the sting of my gambling and all my money has gone to my debt over this time period, but I am starting to get comfortable now, and fear that I could relapse if I don’t take the necessary steps. Once again, thanks for reading, and if anyone wants to share their story here as well, that would be awesome. I am amazed at the people that still go to GA after 5+ years of clean time, it just goes to show you how much effect gambling can have on someone, and how terrible it would be if they were to relapse. For anyone that is back to day 1, please just keep trying, every time you try to quit, you get that much closer to a longer clean time. It’s debilitating each and every time you relapse. The feeling of defeat is so much to bare, but as long as you keep trying over and over to push the envelope, you can get out of the vicious cycle, especially if there are people around you that care deeply for you. I still have urges to gamble at least once a week, but they are not as strong as they used to be. Generally, it gets easier over time. I hope that I helped someone out there, or at least inspired someone, as I have gone through over 10k in savings and than went over 20k in credit card debt over this addiction in a pretty short time while my income was increasing, but I have heard of people losing everything in GA. Even after what I said about other people in my life, I still try to appreciate everyone I do have for support, and don’t know where I would be without them. Thanks again to anyone that has taken the time to read this. -
29 December 2019 at 9:53 am #53804Paul DentParticipant
Hello and thanks for starting a thread in the Gambling Therapy forums
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29 December 2019 at 9:53 am #53805Paul DentParticipant
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29 December 2019 at 10:05 am #53806Seanraj4731Participant
Thank you for sharing i have stopped gambling since 06/12/19 I am living my best life now. Key focus using now is my Self worth, being addicted to positive affirmations ,self talk, journaling and self recovery. You have given a honest account of everything you done to be GF for 260 days. Congrats man. You are doing a great job. You are observing your thought patterns now thankfully you shared that and it is very great that you do. You recognize where you are and where you going to be. I applaud you. You are an amazing person. Believe in your self. You got this brother. You can read other people journal and you can relate to it. This website helped me alot. I am very thankful for taking the time to explore it.
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29 December 2019 at 10:08 am #53807Gamblingblows577Participant
Thank you for the reply and the kind words and 6/12/19 is over 6 months which is a great achievement! 🙂 The first 90 are the hardest! I’ve spent over a decade under 90 days lol
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29 December 2019 at 10:58 am #53808Seanraj4731Participant
24 days GF.
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29 December 2019 at 3:31 pm #53809i-did-itParticipant
Hi Gamblingblows, I haven’t accumulated nearly as much gamble free time as you but reading through your post I feel counselling would be beneficial for you. It would give you time to work through issues which are holding you back, eg the mild depression you describe. There may be other blocks which you are currently unaware of .
You say you find it difficult to socialise but this is a skill which can be learned – you could start by buying a book and practicing some of the ideas there – most people have to learn how to socialise at some stage of their life and like other things some people are better than others at it but everyone can achieve a standard that allows them to meet people wits confidence.
Also some clubs are easier to socialise because everyone shares a common interest – it could be anything from a book club to a scrabble club.
You have done amazingly well on staying gamble free and you rightly should be proud of yourself. It is so encouraging to read a thread from someone who has so much gamble free time behind them.
Keep posting !
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29 December 2019 at 6:32 pm #53810SteevParticipant
Also well done on coming on here when you are facing urges, rather than just giving into them.
I’m someone who is around 10 years gamble free, so you asked to hear from someone with lots of clean time.Someone on here once wrote that the relapse doesn’t happen with the bet – it starts sometime before that – and there were a couple of things in your post that made me concerned. One was, “I am meaning to start going back (to GA) in order to make sure that I don’t relapse.” Meaning to – is not doing it. If you get benefit from being at GA then get back there!
The other was, “I have banned myself from all the casinos in my area, the nearest one I can go to is a 4 hour drive away.” That made me smile. Only a person with gambling problems would know exactly how far the nearest casino is!
I think in your post you have nailed what your issue is. Gambling is a very lonely occupation and it suits those of us who are “socially awkward.” There is a school of thought that says gambling is a means of not dealing with people – and that connecting with a community can be the most helpful thing we can do.
I agree with I-did-it that counselling would be helpful – and try and use this to look at ways in which you can connect to a community of people who have similar interests and where you can feel safe and held. I tried lots of things from classes, to dancing to joining forums on-line (which led to some face-to-face meetings.) Everyone has their own way about doing things but I think connecting with people is the key. I wish you well.
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29 December 2019 at 10:16 pm #53811Ryan123678Participant
You are doing great.
I identify with your social struggles as I have a disability which I think made my gambling worse being stuck in the house with no social life. I won aswell and then gambled all my savings and more. I hardly get any money from disability so I can’t find a way to be positive and I’m thinking about it everyday.
I just keep coming on here when I can and trying to find things to do throughout the day to distract myself.
It’s great that you have nearly cleared your debt and are looking for ways not to relapse stay on the right track and have a great 2020 -
10 January 2020 at 9:31 am #53812Gamblingblows577Participant
Thanks to all of you for responding! My biggest problem is filling the void that the quitting of gambling leaves behind.. I mean when I was gambling, I felt like it was a way to kind of avoid my problems for a temporary time (making those problems worse in the long run). As soon as I was done gambling, I generally felt much worse than I did before I had gambled, but WHILE I was gambling, I was not focused on anything except the rush from gambling, I suppose that’s the hidden thing we are all addicted to (not the money or chance of winning, money is just the fuel for the rush of the possibility to win). The fact that I really find myself unable to communicate well in person takes its toll on me, I have tried 3 therapists but none of them helped much (the second one seemed to care the most but was expensive and I relapsed so bad that I was ashamed to talk to them after that, they were tough and I have always been kind of a wimp when it comes to confrontation). I don’t take a lot of risks in approaching people because there is never much to say, and I think it has been years since anyone had the courage to approach me as well (which could be a vibe I am putting off). I know I should keep trying with therapists because I believe this gambling all stems from the lack of satisfaction from most other things in life, I really find it near impossible to connect with anyone on any deep level. I am fairly good at writing but when it comes to talking in person, my brain just moves too slow to have a good coherent conversation with someone. I have a bachelors degree which I would say is probably my biggest achievement in life, so it is not like I don’t know anything, I’m just very socially awkward. I have told myself 9 months ago when I quit gambling that if I don’t have the charisma to make my life better than at least I will have money eventually. My other hope is that maybe quitting this crazy difficult addiction that I have lost tens of thousands of dollars to over a long decade would give me the confidence boost I needed to get myself out there again. I am still looking for a glimmer of hope and trying to find my passion, as for now, I just work all the time and have the typical hobbies of a single 28 year old. Thanks again to anyone that has listened thus far. This post is mainly venting and if anyone has a similar issue as I do that causes your gambling, I would love to hear your story. Anyone else is welcome to chime in as well! Thanks again and I appreciate the kind words and advice.
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10 January 2020 at 9:33 am #53813Gamblingblows577Participant
Yes, I need to stop being lazy and get myself out there and find a good club to join.. I used to run a ton, and maybe that is the answer!
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10 January 2020 at 9:34 am #53814Gamblingblows577Participant
That’s great! Keep it up! One day at a time! Don’t let relapses discourage you, I tried for a long time and barely ever made it past a month until I really put my mind to it.. The more blocks you put in place the more likely you will quit gambling for a longer time. I am not a fan of giving money away to corporations/ commercial gambling. You have lots of tools at your disposal whether it be GA, or less access to money, or even everyone around you knowing of your problem and holding you accountable. Even posting on this site or seeing a therapist can definitely help curb the urge.. I hope for many more gamble free days to come for you!
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10 January 2020 at 10:00 am #53815Gamblingblows577Participant
I agree, the counseling will definitely help but I have tried 3 counselors already and none were very good except one at least sort of did good. I will keep trying though. There is no excuse that I skip out on GA much longer and this can eventually end in a relapse if I don’t stay on it 100% and at least find some kind of replacement for the gambling .. I still do a lot against my gambling, but this is an addiction that requires 100% commitment and no less .. I do stay busy for the most part at least compared to when I gambled, I work all the time now lol. I have very little free time, but sometimes I feel like I need that time to figure out my life.
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10 January 2020 at 10:06 am #53816Gamblingblows577Participant
Thanks Ryan. I hope you can find your way to a better 2020 than 2019!
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12 January 2020 at 5:55 am #53817Seanraj4731Participant
To better develop good self confidence determines what you are saying to yourself about yourself. I am great i am positive and i am happy is just some examples of words of affirmations that you use daily. Use as simple as the way you dress as a boost to your self confidence not a lot of emphasis on it though because you may need to budget on that area. Be who you are you are a young man determine to make right in your life recongnizing where you are and where you ought to be. Yes journaling on this forum help me alot. Reading help enlighten my mind to examine my thoughts and other people mindset and what they reveal about themselves on this forum and books i have read. So you can occupy your time by doing something you love before you started gambling. A new hobby reading writing drawing etc playing sport going to the gym will help you to boost your self confidence. You are going to accomplish great thing man.
Keep your mind free and live your life bro. Life is meant to be enjoy.
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12 January 2020 at 6:03 am #53818Seanraj4731Participant
Yes we have made mistakes and it cost us a major dent in financies but we rise above this. Broken relationships may put a hinder on self confidence but be determine to recover and fully heal yourself of it all. Be thankful.
Brother take time to heal and to fill that void help someone who needs help reach out and give back without looking for something in return. That is true giving. Bro you gonna make that big shift in your thinking once you are going to rediscover your true self worth.
Thank you and continue being GF…. blessings man
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12 January 2020 at 9:42 am #53819SteevParticipant
I can connect to what you are saying. I am an introvert and prefer my own company. One of the things about recovering from gambling is that it made me realise I couldn’t do it alone. I discovered co-counselling and from there GA (Gamblers’ Anonymous) and then counselling.
You say you know you should keep trying with therapists … so do so! Often a therapist will give a cheap rate or even a free session for the first time to see if you are a good fit. Take advantage of this and see as many as is needed to find the right one. Someone you can trust and feel you can say anything to is far better than thinking about this or that sort of technique or approach.
I too have a batchelor’s degree – and eventually came to the conclusion that I need challenges in life and that “doing what I have always done” will not allow me to grow as a person. I challenged myself to come out of my comfort zone, but stuck with things that I thought I would enjoy. I like music so went to concerts more often but found I wasn’t connecting to people there – so I tried dancing. I was useless at first, but gradually bit by bit I got better and grew in confidence and now have another “skill” which is appreciated by the opposite sex. I joined a bookclub and a quiz team and made a few friends at both … connecting with just a few people at a time is easier for me than big crowds.
So my advice, for what it’s worth, is to find something that will move you forward as a person, something that comes from you – that you have always wanted to do, but have been putting off or feel scared about. Take the plunge! If you have a batchelor’s degree is there somewhere to go to improve on this – either specialising or going for a Master’s in the same area? Life is for living … I think we forget this when we are using up our lives chasing our losses. Go well.
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