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    • #34418
      low-life
      Partecipante

      The gambling demon took over me with this bet laying system I think I got! I done 1700 last week and 1000 today! The trouble is that I can,t accept a small lost and chase! Why am i like this! Feel so unfair to my girlfriend and just want to go asleep right now and not wake up! This is torture.

    • #34419
      i-did-it
      Partecipante

      Hi LL, it is torture and i have been tortured so often. However I Learned that once we stop everything , including our heads, becomes normal really fast.

      Try to ride out the horrible hangover . LIke all hangovers it will fade . I so feel for you but you know you have the power within you to make sure this is your last ever torture by this demon.

      LL have you got barriers in place . Can you add to them?

      It is difficult. And no matter how often we tell ourselves next time will be different, we will withdraw when we are up we just don’t!
      I think that’s the thing that really makes us different to non addicted gamblers . We cannot accept a loss but neither can we accept a win! I stopped . You can too. Here’s a few of my strategies .. I hope they help you .
      So u want to chase your loss-you can still chase it in a weeks time. Try telling yourself you don’t need to chase it today .
      If you have any money left treat yourself to something nice to mark the start of your new attitude to money and how you will use it . (My first buy was sparkly sandals )

      instead of fantasising about the wonderful gift you will buy your girlfriend when you win- go out and buy her something small. A hand in the bush …

      If u are skint try this next time you get a few bob.

      I found these kind of things helped me enjoy other things money can do for me .

      I hope this helps you a little . You have a future , a really great one . Grab it !

    • #34420
      low-life
      Partecipante

      Thanks mate, I got no job ATM but got about 9000 in savings from 30 grand which I had at the beginning of the year! It’s just always on my mind but day 1 today but can,t get it out of my mind! It’s crazy as I got mates who can have a bet and lose and just walk away but not me! Why can I not be like a normal person and walk away! Am i cursed or something

    • #34421
      maverick.
      Partecipante

      I am a compulsive gambler and thats why I cant bet for fun, If I start I can never stop, If I had a million pounds and I started gambling I would honestly lose every last penny the only question would be how long would it last, when I make that first bet that is where it all goes wrong because I cant stop so the only answer is dont make that first bet, I understand all that you say and I have done the same, one thing I know for sure is when I gamble £9000 doesnt last long and like you say you still have that in your savings, try and hold on to it and use it wisley………………when we continue to gamble things can only get worse and its fightening how quick they do.

      I wish you well in your recovery and life, hope you have a good gamble free day, all the best.

      Maverick

    • #34422
      vera
      Partecipante

      Hi Lowlife
      PLEASE put that 9k into a Savings Account where you will have to give a week or a month’s notice to withdraw it. Otherwise it will vanish.
      Gambling cleaned me out financially. I chose it over everything and everyone. I put my money, my family, my friends , my health, my heart and my soul into slot machines.
      What did I get in return?
      A few paltry “wins” that I recycled at high speed and misery grief and tears.
      IT ALWAYS ENDS IN TEARS.
      Why do we do it?
      Because we were asleep. Time to wake up!
      Are we “cursed”. Yes, I believe we inflict a type of curse on ourselves but we have the power to lift this curse.
      We can look in the mirror, kiss the ugly toad and watch it transform into a beautiful prince/princess.
      Long story short, when I was finished gambling my very good salary for years and all I could borrow on the strength of it, I ended up with stress. huge loans and ill health. I had to take early retirement due to ill health and what do you know that gave me a fabulous lump sum -enough to pay off my debts but the CG in me told me it was “my money ;to spend as I pleased”
      Yea, right! Not much pleasure in seeing your only nest egg vanish before your eyes and know you did it so on that note I appeal to you to LOCK that 9k away or some sleazy fat cat will be laughing all the way to the bank with his pockets lined with YOUR money.
      Well done on looking for help
      Gambling is a plague that ruins lives. You are very young.
      Stay clear of it.

    • #34423
      low-life
      Partecipante

      Thank you for your kind words Vera! It’s just ATM I,am having thoughts of getting it back up to ten so I can relex then as that is the amount I usually stop at when I been gambling in the pass! But now for the first time in years I,am gone under my life saving and it’s like a voice saying stick a grand on a evens shot and you will have ten! It’s so hard to resist this evil curse!

    • #34424
      low-life
      Partecipante

      Yeah it’s mad I can just sit in the bookies for ages and even not bet but as soon as I lose a small amount that’s it! Even a tenner! I want it back NOW! It’s crazy as its only a tenner and i lost 1000s in the pass! To me its like another person taking over me! As crazy as it sounds! I just don,t get it! I really don,t!

    • #34425
      charles
      Moderatore

      Hi Low life. This seems to be your third thread? Which of the suggestions you have received on other threads have you considered?

      Torture? Yes it is. The thing is though that by going into bookies, leaving yourself access to that money to gamble with the person doing the torturing is yourself.

      Which bookies do you normally sit in? How about going there tom orrow and asking them to ban you? How about putting that money somewhere that you can’t instantly access it?

      Why are you like this? The short answer is because you are an addict, a compulsive gambler. Why you and not others? You maye never know, now you can waste your time keeping asking that question or you can start taking some of the steps that will help you avoid your next bet. Stopping gambling will make you much more likely to get to that 10k than gambling ever will.

    • #34426
      low-life
      Partecipante

      Yeah sorry for making you treads! I just relapsed once again and wanted to make a new one to make it day 1 again I guess! I get what your saying about self exclusion but the trouble is Charles that gambling is everywhere! How’s it’s allowed to be advised too is something I can not understand! To me those free bets they do when you join is no different from a guy standing on the corner and giving you a simple of a class A drug!

    • #34427
      maverick.
      Partecipante

      Low-life,

      For years I didnt want to stop gambling so I never sought help, I understand now that if I didnt really want to stop I never would have, in the end something clicked inside and made me want to stop, I wont lie I still relapse and at the moment really struggling to string some good recovery time together but what I do know is I want to be here and in recovery and I dont want to gamble.

      Temptation is everywhere we just have to find a way of beating it, in the last 4 days I have self excluded from everywhere I usualy gamble…………I have been here there and everywhere in my lunch hour and after work trying to put in as many barriers as I possibly can, its not impossible for me to gamble but I have now made it as bloody hard as possible.

      Wish you well in your recovery and life.

      Maverick

    • #34428
      low-life
      Partecipante

      Day 2 of my gambling freedom! Paid a few bills and I always feeling like gambling after i brought something or paid bills ect but not today! It’s no way the bookies is having my 9 grand life savings! I got to remain strong!

    • #34429
      low-life
      Partecipante

      Day 2 of my gambling freedom! Paid a few bills and I always feeling like gambling after i brought something or paid bills ect but not today! It’s no way the bookies is having my 9 grand life savings! I got to remain strong!

    • #34430
      charles
      Moderatore

      Well done on your gamble free time Life. You can stop gambling I promise you, it’s trying to control our gambling when in action that none of us can do.

    • #34431
      low-life
      Partecipante

      I did slip up today and lost 400 but in a way I,am relived as I got no access to the 9 grand of savings I got now as my mum got my cards

    • #34432
      Pea
      Partecipante

      Well I am so glad that you dont have access to that 9k at the moment. its really really good that you actually have that money considering you are a gambler and considering you had access.. I know you are looking at the loss form what was 30k but honestly you could have lost the lot plus more if you continue. That money will never come back in a win. In fact if you win it would simply encourage you to keep gambling. I know you dont think thats what would happen, everyone thinks they would do the right thing with the money and put it in the bank etc.. I’ve never heard many stories that go that way, the familiar ones i hear are, i and the money, i was up, i got it… I lost it! You are winning now by giving the cards to your mum. Keep trying.

      Pea

    • #34433
      amz
      Partecipante

      The main reason I think some people even if they lose a small amount of money then immediately want it back is to do with ego and hating to lose.

      I was exactly the same when I gambled. Even if I was actually up thousands of pounds but then lost a few hundred of it I would want it back immediately cause to me that was my money. I never looked at how much I actually won that day even if it was over 10k. I just seemed to look at the fact in the end I lost £500 so winnings went down to 9.5k I wanted that 10k figure back!! This would then make be irrational and most cases lose the lot. Happened over and over again.

      Truth of the matter is even if I left it at 10k. I would have come back next day to try making it 11k. If that worked I’ll come back again day after. If I lost it would chase losses. What we have to understand is that the cycle does not stop either way. We just have to stop playing to win!

      My main problem was online casino gambling. I have now not gambled for over one month after finally putting my hands up and saying you can NEVER win in the long run. You have to accept that fact. Once you swallow your pride you can make steps to move on. I hope I stay on this non gambling lifestyle cause even one small win will set it all off again and I do not want that kind of life!

    • #34434
      low-life
      Partecipante

      Bookies are just evil places! Makes me sick how terrorists like Isis kill inocent people! Why can,t they just go and bomb every bookies in the uk! Think how many life’s they would have made happier in the furture!

    • #34435
      charles
      Moderatore

      Hi Low Life, bookies aren’t the poroblem, my brother gambles most weeks – why shouldn’t he? he doesn’t have a problem. We chose to give our money to them, no one stole it from us.

      I read on another thread that you have to wait 10 weeks to be accepted inot GMA? Have you started the process? If not of course then it would take longer still.

      10 weeks might be hard but it will pass. There are things though that you can do now, today. Things like tying up all your money, getting banned from your usual/local bookies etc. If there are things that aren’t going to happen straight away then start taking some of the positive actions that you can take straight away.

    • #34436
      Pea
      Partecipante

      Sorry to hear you are so distressed lately.. I think its probably best if you feel that bad to go and see a health professional, if you are suicidal i really suggest you ring a help line or go see your doctor ASAP. By the sounds of what you were writing on my thread you are at a bad place. Seek help. You need face to face help for mental health. Keep trying not to gamble and look at what you can do to stop yourself. Look at meetings, counselling etc.. find ways. For now though professional help sounds like the best option first

      Pea

    • #34437
      low-life
      Partecipante

      well I not gambled for about 5 months and been so happy that I thought I beat this demon! Got my savings to 11 grand and thought I beat this demon once and for all! So the last 2 Saturdays I been doing little 20 pound bets on the price boost offers the bookies do on sports and won about 50 in the last couple of weeks and I found that buzz again were I,am in action and it takes the other problems you got in life off your mind when your watching a football match or horse race. So I took a grand out of my bank and thought I,am strong enough to try my system again now were I bet and lay horses as I know a few guys in bookies that gives me the odds after they go down in price but only a point ( I will take 5 to 1 but it went down to 4 to 1 about 30 seconds ago and lay it off at 9 to 2 on betfair) so I was making 40 to 60 a day on this as some horses won but if they don,t win then you don,t lose anything! So I made 300 in about 5 days and then today not one won so I thought I try to lay this fav to win a 50 and it won so I layed another one and it won and lost 100 then I layed a 3 to 1 for 100 and that won and cost me 300! So I ended up betting this 5 to 4 shot to win for 500 and it was come to the last fence clear and fell!!! I could not believe it! Ended up losing the grand I took out the bank and the 300 I won in 5 days! I would never bet 500 on a horse from my first bet but it’s like when I was chasing my head went and something took over me and I at to bet it to just get my money back! All this happened in the space of 30 minutes! I got my 10 grand target savings in the bank but I not been sleeping right and so stressed out! Why can I not stay displinced like most people would! You must thing I,am crazy betting 500 on a horse but it was like I had to get my money back and that was the only way! I can not believe what a idiot I am! Sucide thoughts have come back too! All those 5 months of no gambling and saving and done half of it in 30 minutes! Is it ever possible for a compulsive gambler to stick to his system without losing is head people? I tried so many times 5 months and failed time and time again! It’s just so weird how when I,am down something takes over me and I got to get it back asap!! Am I just a fool or is it possible to stay in control?

    • #34438
      charles
      Moderatore

      You aren’t a fool, you are an addict.

      As an addict it doesn’t matter how skilled we are, what sort of “system” we have, the addiction will always win in the end.

      So the answer is NO, it is not possible for a Compulsive Gambler to return to “normal” gambling. Not possible to stick with a system or any plan really, as you found. If we were able to show the “control” you talk about then we wouldn’t be in the chit in the first place.

      You managed to stay gamble free for 5 months and found happiness. You did it then, you can do it again. This time though put barriers in place so that if in 5 months time you get tempted again you will be unable to access your money as easily as you did this time.

      Keep posting here as well – if we need help to stop then it is important to keep using support to help maintain recovery.

      Keep posting and let us know the positive steps that youa re taking and the thigns you are doing to fill your gamble free time.

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