Yes, I have tried more than one venue. I just happen to think Whitechapel is well chaired and structured. One of the first spiritual.lessons I learned was that words are powerful regardless of whether lip service is paid to them or not. And that actions speak louder than words. I agree that not all groups follow the steps or stick to the same format. I appreciate GA and what it does but my view is my view after attending twice a week for three months, it was doing more harm than good for me. I dont have the time to wallow in the emotional al distraught ness the steps were bringing up.I guess I will return a week or sos time. I feel stronger right now if I maintain a distance. I can honestly say that this site and the folks on it have helped me the most.