Hi Bettie! I’m glad I wasn’t at that GA meeting because knowing me, i would have challenged two "truths" he said. Some people come into GA and can accept that their higher power is other cgs collectively, helping each other to battle this disease. Some of these same people come to later accept that God is their higher power. Everybody’s recovery and their spiritual journey is different. I also don’t agree that we get urges because we haven’t surrended. I KNOW that I am powerless over my addiction, yet I get urges at times for reason such as things coming at me in left field and old habits that need my brain to be retrained. I was at an ethics course once and the subject of childhood sexual abuse came up. Someone voiced an opinion that sexual abuse victims even if they were children needed to own their part in the sexual abuse. And nobody challenged the person not even the facilitator. I saw RED and could hardly speak and asked if the person was saying that a child of 7 years old had some part in being sexually abused, and the person said yes!! One woman at the course stated that it was a different way of looking at things and that she was going to go back to the shelter where she worked with woman and children with that new way of looking at things. I could not believe my ears what I was hearing and I wanted to tell them that they were a bunch of f***ing idiots. I reported the facilitator because she obviously didn’t have the skills to stop the insanity that was happening in the course. And these people at the course were all social workers. It still me makes angry that this happened because it revictimizes victims. Your friend, carole